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		<title>Twitter is like shouting at a dinner party</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Whoof! I thought I knew everything about Twitter, but I was really surprised to learn something new [see below] last week. If I drop this message into my Tweetstream&#8230; &#8220;@quinnovator That was a great idea you had the other day!&#8221; &#8230;who sees it? Specifically, do all of my followers see it? This would be like [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://blog.red7.com/twitter-is-like-shouting-at-a-dinner-party/">Twitter is like shouting at a dinner party</a> appeared first on <a href="https://blog.red7.com">Sky&#039;s Blog</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://twitter.com/" target="_blank"><img decoding="async" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1181" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 2px 12px;" title="Twitter" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/twitter-96.jpg" alt="Twitter" width="96" height="96" /></a>Whoof! I thought I knew everything about <a href="http://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, but I was really surprised to learn something new [see below] last week.</p>
<p>If I drop this message into my Tweetstream&#8230;<em> &#8220;@quinnovator That was a great idea you had the other day!&#8221;</em> &#8230;who sees it? Specifically, do <span style="text-decoration: underline;">all of my followers</span> see it? This would be like sitting at a dinner party, wanting to ask a question of the person next to you, and shouting it out so everyone could hear it.</p>
<p><span id="more-1180"></span><a href="http://blog.cathy-moore.com/" target="_blank"><img decoding="async" class="alignright size-full wp-image-1185" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 2px 12px;" title="Cathy Moore: Making Change" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/cathy-moore-96.jpg" alt="Cathy Moore: Making Change" width="96" height="96" /></a>I was SO CERTAIN that all of my followers would see everything that I tweet, that I just didn’t believe it when <a href="http://blog.cathy-moore.com/" target="_blank">Cathy Moore</a> said (in <a href="http://blog.learnlets.com/?p=934" target="_blank">this conversation on the Learnlets.com blog</a>) <em>“Yes, @ replies you use in the chat end up in your stream, but the only followers who see them are ones who also follow the person you replied to (unless they’ve changed their settings so they see everything you say to anyone). It’s a compromise rather than a perfect solution.”</em></p>
<p>Bolstering my opinion, Twitter Support even says <em>“What is the difference between an @reply and a direct message? &#8211; &#8211; An <a href="http://twitter.zendesk.com/forums/10711/entries/14023">@reply</a> is a public message sent regardless of follow-ship that anyone can view.  A <a href="http://twitter.zendesk.com/forums/10711/entries/14606">direct message</a> can only be sent by someone you follow, and is a private message that only the author and recipient can view.” </em>This made me believe that all my followers would receive my replies to @quinnovator because of the “regardless of follow-ship” phrase. (Although the word “view” could mean it can be viewed on the web but isn’t sent to your followers. A technicality, but perhaps that’s the key.)<em><br />
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<p>Well, Cathy is right. Twitter claims that if a tweet starts with @username then it is sent to that person and those who follow that person. And it’s <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> sent to your followers, except for those who follow @username, and those who have specially asked to receive <span style="text-decoration: underline;">all replies</span> sent by anyone/everyone they follow. They are parsing your tweet more carefully and now have two distinct ways of dealing with @username in a tweet  &#8211; <em>replies</em> and <em>mentions</em>. (<a href="http://help.twitter.com/portal" target="_blank">This March 26, 2009, help page defines <em>replies</em> and <em>mentions</em></a> &#8211; and perhaps gives us a clue that this was implemented in March 2009.)</p>
<p><img decoding="async" class="alignright size-full wp-image-1188" style="border: 0pt none;" title="Twitter @reply settings" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/twitter-replies-popup.jpg" alt="Twitter @reply settings" width="412" height="104" />If you check your Twitter <strong>Settings</strong> (Settings/Notices) you’ll see this pop-up menu, which gives you a choice of seeing all @replies or limiting so you only see those to people you follow. This leads me to believe that if I follow @aaa and he tweets “@bbb hello.” then I will not see this message unless I also follow @bbb.  I tested this with my friend @quinnovator, and it works as advertised.</p>
<p>I specifically want to see @reply messages because that’s one of the ways I find new and interesting people &#8211; referrals from my friends, let’s call it. Consequently I chose “all @ replies” in my settings.</p>
<p>Case closed.</p>
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<p><a href="http://ross.typepad.com/" target="_blank"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-1182 alignright" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 2px 12px;" title="Ross Mayfield" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ross-mayfield-96.jpg" alt="Ross Mayfield" width="96" height="96" /></a>Related to <a href="/tweetchat-twitter-for-meetings/" target="_blank">my earlier article about TweetChat as a Twitter-based mechanism for chats or meetings</a>, here is more conversation on similar issues.</p>
<p>Ross Mayfield asked some questions and <a href="http://ross.typepad.com/blog/2009/02/twitter-compared-to-im-email-and-forums.html" target="_blank">started a good discussion comparing Twitter, IM<sup>[1]</sup> and forums</a>. He started by asking these questions:</p>
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<li>How do you explain to new Twitter users how it is different from IM?</li>
<li>How do you explain the difference between Twitter &amp; Email to the email generation?</li>
<li>How is Twitter different from a Forum?</li>
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<p>[1] IM: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_messaging" target="_blank">Instant Messaging</a>.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://blog.red7.com/twitter-is-like-shouting-at-a-dinner-party/">Twitter is like shouting at a dinner party</a> appeared first on <a href="https://blog.red7.com">Sky&#039;s Blog</a>.</p>
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		<title>Chatting our way to World Peace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[Communicating]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Human Rights]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>When I made my first trip to Dharamsala, India, in 2005, to see this hub of activity of the Tibetan exile community and the home of the Dalai Lama, I was hosted by Thubten Samdup. “Sam” is founder of the Canada Tibet Committee and an activist in the exile community. He lives in Montréal. When [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://blog.red7.com/chatting-our-way-to-world-peace/">Chatting our way to World Peace</a> appeared first on <a href="https://blog.red7.com">Sky&#039;s Blog</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-977" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 2px 12px;" title="dharamsala-street" src="/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/dharamsala-street.jpg" alt="dharamsala-street" width="201" height="268" />When I made my first trip to Dharamsala, India, in 2005, to see this hub of activity of the Tibetan exile community and the home of the Dalai Lama, I was hosted by Thubten Samdup. “Sam” is founder of the Canada Tibet Committee and an activist in the exile community. He lives in Montréal. When he’s not traveling, that is.</p>
<p>One of Sam&#8217;s recent projects (it’s a couple of years old now) involves a group of Chinese-speaking (reading and writing as well) Tibetans who live in Dharamsala and <a href="http://yishilaoshanyang.typepad.com/reflections_in_a_chinese_/2009/03/crossing-the-great-firewall-of-china.html" target="_blank">spend their time chatting with people inside China</a>. About what it is to be a part of the Tibetan culture and how it relates to the rest of China. It’s an actual project with financial supporters and employees, and you can <a href="mailto:blogcontact@dlfound.org" target="_blank">contact me</a> if you’re interested in helping support it. Sam also spends a lot of time in the Tibetan exile settlements in the rest of India, but that’s another story.</p>
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